Jesus never said He was God. He always claimed He was the Son of God. He always showed the Father to be superior. All the trinity is is a concept full of assumptions on a few verses that can be mis interperted. I still say if Jesus were God He would have just said so instead of saying He was the Son of God. But He didnt.
from reading what you have all written, you are completely missing one of the major points. Jesus did show he was God on many occaissions!
The pharisees constatntly tried to catch him out and he turned it back on them. Mathew 2 :7 Who can forgive sins but God alone?
Jesus has claimes his deity through his ability to forgive sins.
Also did it other ways: raising the dead (John 6:39)
Power over nature (Mark 4:39)
Power over demons (Luke 4:35)
He knew mens hearts (Mark2:8)
He accpted worshiip that is due to God alone
Not only this but Jesus DID say that he was God!
John 10:30 - I and the Father are one
In terms of the trinity, it completely exists! You have to think of the trinity as a big cake. If you cut it into three all those three pieces are fantastic on their own but they essesntially are part of the one. God, the Holy Spirit and Jesus are all of the one. They all share different roles, God is the creator, Jesus is the sacrifice and the Holy spirit is the guide. At the end of Mathews gospel Jesus tells the disciples to 'go and make didciples of all nations, baptising them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.'
They are all important and all hold authority!
Ok, i hope this helps and i pray that you will understand,
Helpful reading: Paul Little, Know what you believe.
God gave Jesus the authority to forgive sins.
If Jesus had been God He would not have needed to give Himself the authority!
18 And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.
as for being one,
14 "I have given them Your word; and the world has hated them because they are not of the world, just as I am not of the world.
15 "I do not pray that You should take them out of the world, but that You should keep them from the evil one.
16 "They are not of the world, just as I am not of the world.
17 "Sanctify them by Your truth. Your word is truth.
18 "As You sent Me into the world, I also have sent them into the world.
19 "And for their sakes I sanctify Myself, that they also may be sanctified by the truth.
20 "I do not pray for these alone, but also for those who will believe in Me through their word;
21 "that they all may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You; that they also may be one in Us, that the world may believe that You sent Me.
22 "And the glory which You gave Me I have given them, that they may be one just as We are one:
23 "I in them, and You in Me; that they may be made perfect in one, and that the world may know that You have sent Me, and have loved them as You have loved Me.
verse 22 we are to be one with Jesus and God but that wont make us God also.
verse14 Jesus gave us Gods Word that is where the oneness is. one in the Word of God. we will not be God just as Jesus will not be God.
32 So the scribe said to Him, "Well said, Teacher. You have spoken the truth, for there is one God, and there is no other but He.
1 Cor 8:6
6 yet for us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we for Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and through whom we live.
1 Tim 2:5
5 For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus,
40 "But now you seek to kill Me, a Man who has told you the truth which I heard from God. Abraham did not do this.
17 Jesus said to her, "Do not cling to Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, 'I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to My God and your God.'"
nope sorry but Jesus isnt God and the sooner you relize that the better off your going to be.